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The Press was something else that I like to believe it came out of my tenure as research head. There had been a publication function right up until the beginning of Fouraker's administration. And there was a lady named Ruth Norton, who you probably knew. . . .

And she was it. She did everything. Proofreading, even. So we had that. And Larry took the position that we weren't going to do anything that wasn't first class, and this wasn't first class, so he cut it off. I think a more serious problem was that it was difficult for a faculty member to turn down another faculty member's manuscripts.

Well, I think I'd been in office say about a year, or something like that, 1981. And Joanne Segal and I were talking one day, and I said, "I think we ought to think about starting up the Press again. And this time, just to take care of the problem of favoritism, we'll kind of keep it at a distance from the faculty."

And we had a Board of Review, which you well know about. We had about a dozen people on it; people from all the different areas in the school, and businesspeople as well. So we had quite a few. And that went well. I mean, they took their job very seriously, and we've turned down manuscripts that would come in. Normally, you know, something happens to them before that, so that if they're not up to par, sort of quietly they're withdrawn.