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"Well, it was a good system.  They just threw you into the pot, and then you figured it out.  But no, I mean, I had help because I'd been here and, you know, by then I'd been around here for four years, and I'd seen some unbelievably good teachers.  And you could, I think, kind of get the idea easily in this interactive teaching/learning process which kinds of teachers—it wasn't just one kind but, I mean, there were -- you could understand why some people were really tremendous at it, and others weren't.

And, but no, I never—I remember what turned out to be the day that the Dean came and told me—Fouraker—that I had got tenure.  That morning, for the first time in my life, a professor sat in my class.  It was Pearson Hunt.  And I guess that afternoon they did my case.  And probably Pearson, or maybe several people should have—were supposed to have done it, at some point, or maybe only Pearson.  But in any case, that very morning he was in my class.  That's the first time I'd ever seen anyone.  I'd been around here since 1957."